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		<title>Surreal Scenes Inside the Sewers of Cote St. Paul</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 00:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andrew.</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have a feeling we're not in Montreal anymore. I’ve been asked a number of times if I’ve ever come across anything underground in Montreal that’s surprised me.  I never really quite know what to say since most of what I see is fairly predictable. It’s mostly pipes and chambers of varying sizes, constructed out [...]]]></description>
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	<div>I have a feeling we're not in Montreal anymore. </div>
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<p>I’ve been asked a number of times if I’ve ever come across anything underground in Montreal that’s surprised me.  I never really quite know what to say since most of what I see is fairly predictable. It’s mostly pipes and chambers of varying sizes, constructed out of either concrete, brick or occasionally metal. I haven&#8217;t (yet) come across any dead bodies, <a href="http://www.google.ca/#hl=en&amp;source=hp&amp;q=goonies+pirate+ship&amp;btnG=Google+Search&amp;meta=&amp;aq=f&amp;oq=goonies+pirate+ship&amp;fp=4bd26c1f505ba07b" target="_blank">pirate ships</a> or gold coins<span style="white-space: nowrap;"><strong> —</strong></span> although I did find an old wallet once. What surprises do exist usually aren’t worth mentioning; a section that abruptly ends or a stretch that gets larger in diameter when you were expecting it to get smaller. Not exactly the sort of stuff that inspires answers people are hoping to hear.</p>
<p>Occasionally, though, I do come across things that I’d consider to be quite out of the ordinary and this entry involves one such example.</p>
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<p><strong>Enter the Cote St Paul Collector Sewer</strong></p>
<p>The Cote St. Paul collector (CSPC) delivers wastewater from the southern half of Cote St. Paul towards the eastern edge of Point St Charles where it falls into a far larger sewer, the Saint Pierre Collector.</p>
<p>The main arm of the CSPC  begins as a 6’ brick pipe built during the late 1800s and finishes with 12’ prefabricated concrete pipe that was set during the 1990s. Running parallel for much of its length is the former water conduit turned sewer that I covered in this entry. A short connection exits between the two via a 5’ pipe, thus allowing any excess flow to be conveyed from one sewer to the other. I’m assuming the CSPC was added (or more likely reconstructed) to accommodate the burgeoning neighbourhoods that came after the second world war.</p>
<p>The original brick portion of the sewer is fairly straightforward. There&#8217;s a nice example of a shaft where snow would have been dumped down into the sewers from street level.  Rusty &#8220;shock bars&#8221; and a variety of stones lining the sides and bottom helped prevent ice and other falling debris from fracturing the surrounding brickwork.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><div class="img aligncenter size-large wp-image-1025" style="width:400px;">
	<a href="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/2009/09/cspc_snowdump.jpg"><img src="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/2009/09/cspc_snowdump-400x600.jpg" alt="cspc_snowdump" width="400" height="600" /></a>
	<div>A 19th century snow-dump shaft at the beginning stages of the Cote St. Paul collector.</div>
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<p>Eventually the brick comes to an end and the sanitary flow falls down into a nice little concrete chamber.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><div class="img aligncenter size-large wp-image-1016" style="width:400px;">
	<a href="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/2009/09/aqueduc03.jpg"><img src="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/2009/09/aqueduc03-400x600.jpg" alt="aqueduc03" width="400" height="600" /></a>
	<div>The beginning of the newer concrete section of the sewer that runs underneath Blvd. de la Verendreye</div>
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<p><strong>Canoes in the Sewers?</strong></p>
<p>For the next few kilometers, it’s a typical mid 20th century sewer- cast-in-place concrete and horseshoe shaped. It runs below underneath Blvd Lavendreye for approximately three kilometers, a stretch that contains few noteworthy characteristics. The exceptions are two shafts which former city planners have marked on maps as “pits pour canot” &#8211; literal translation:  “well for a canoe.”</p>
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	<a href="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/2009/09/pitt_map.jpg"><img src="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/2009/09/pitt_map-545x404.jpg" alt="pitt_map" width="545" height="404" /></a>
	<div>City sewer map showing locations of snow dumps and &quot;pits for canoes.&quot; Also shown is the old aqueduc water supply conduit running just a bit south of the CSPC.</div>
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<p>At the top of each of these shafts are two sets of racks which appear as though they were designed to swing up and down. It definitely isn’t a canoe (or boat) friendly contraption so it’s unclear where the name comes from. I’ve never come across this sort of thing anywhere else, either on maps or through firsthand experience walking through the city&#8217;s sewers.</p>
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	<a href="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/2009/09/IMG_9312.jpg"><img src="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/2009/09/IMG_9312-400x600.jpg" alt="IMG_9312" width="400" height="600" /></a>
	<div>The mystery contraption at the top of the &quot;canoe&quot; pit. Obviously it hasn't been used in quite some time.</div>
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<p><strong>Another Sewer, Another Planet<br />
</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><div class="img aligncenter size-large wp-image-1010" style="width:400px;">
	<a href="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/2009/09/pitt04.jpg"><img src="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/2009/09/pitt04-400x600.jpg" alt="pitt04" width="400" height="600" /></a>
	<div>A giant flowstone that seems to have become dislodged from another point in the sewer.</div>
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<p>It’s at the downstream end of the CSLC where things start to get fun. Here, a six-foot high brick relief sewer veers off to the North. I was hoping to be able to follow this to get inside a portion of<a href="www.undermontreal.com/riviere-st-pierre-part-i-start-to-finish/"> Riviere St. Pierre</a> that was covered over. Instead, I found something far better.</p>
<p>I’ve encountered calcite deposits inside sewers in the past. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalactite" target="blank">Stalactites</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalagmite" target="blank">stalagmites</a>, “<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soda_straw" target="blank">soda straws</a>” and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flowstone" target="blank">flowstones</a><a></a> are all to be found in just about any sewer or storm drain that is more than a decade or so old. Caused partially by the limestone in cement, these formations can help turn a run-of-the-mill system into something quite wonderful. This one is no exception. In fact, I&#8217;ve never seen anything else like it.</p>
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	<div>What happens when you don't clean your sewers.</div>
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<p>For roughly 100 meters, the walls of this century-old sewer make for a breathtaking spectacle. Nature has completely taken over to the point where you&#8217;re easily tricked into believing you&#8217;re not inside a man-made structure anymore. Instead, you are in a cave deep beneath the surface of the earth in some exotic country. Wherever you are, you are most definitely not 15 feet below a light industrial district and a fifteen-minute drive from your home.</p>
<p>An assortment of objects caught during higher water levels, lies snagged or in encased in the columns of calcite. It feels a bit like walking through a jungle, only the vegetation has been replaced with dangling plastic bags, condoms and panty-liners. As unsanitary as that might sound, the surrounding beauty supersedes the grossness of these individual objects.</p>
<p>Adding a bit of comedic relief to this relief sewers is an old (knock-off?) Spiderman action figure, which will most likely remain entombed in this blessed mess for the remainder of its days. Its pose only adds to its appearance of helplessness.</p>
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	<div>Sewer: 1, Spider-Man: 0.</div>
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<p><strong>Around the Bend and Back Again</strong></p>
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	<div>The spic and span brickwork around the the bend in the sewer.</div>
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<p>Carrying onward, the sewer takes a 90 degree turn at which point things start to settle down a bit. Around the bend, the sewer is (almost) as clean as a whistle. Not only are the walls free of the formations and debris a few feet earlier, but water coming into it via a small connection runs clear and seems to be free of any sanitary flow. However, that doesn&#8217;t last for very long.</p>
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	<div>A torrent of sewage falling down from the main branch of the CSPC.</div>
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<p>A loud rumble can be heard off in the distance, the result of a 12-foot drop-shaft chamber. Here the old brick sewer continues on, but is intercepted by the main arm of the Cote St Paul collector. A violent torrent of water from the latter falls down from an adjacent side of the chamber resulting in one big hot and foggy mess. Without any means of reaching the bottom of the chamber or the opposite side, there&#8217;s no choice but to head back in the opposite direction.</p>
<p><strong>Vibrapipe</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong><div class="img aligncenter size-large wp-image-1021" style="width:400px;">
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	<div>The gateway into the section constructed during the 1990s.</div>
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<p>Once back out of the brick sidepipe, you can continue further downstream through the main arm of the CSLC. A bit further and the older concrete construction comes to an end and one is greeted with a taste of the 1990s. A robust hexagonal  arch creates the entrance way into a robust chamber. A foot-wide groove designed to hold stop-logs runs down the walls and across the floor.</p>
<p>A short distance beyond this point is where you’ll find the beginning of a modern 12’ concrete pipe manufactured by <a href="http://www.frasers.com/public/basicListingDetails.jsf?listingId=41690" target="_blank">Vibrapipe</a>. Its name and casting date are stamped onto each section. Compared to the older sewers covered so far, this one shows few signs of wear and tear. While I wouldn’t look forward to having to walk through kilometers worth of this stuff, it can make for somewhat interesting space-age style photos.  Fortunately there isn’t too much of this found on the island of Montreal, at least not for the larger diameter sewers. While common in other cities like Toronto, here in Montreal it&#8217;s still somewhat of an anomaly.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><div class="img aligncenter size-large wp-image-1007" style="width:400px;">
	<a href="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/2009/09/vibrapipe03.jpg"><img src="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/2009/09/vibrapipe03-400x601.jpg" alt="vibrapipe03" width="400" height="601" /></a>
	<div>Prefabricated concrete pipe compliments of the Quebec company named Vibrapipe</div>
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<p>This section of the sewer takes roughly the same path as the smaller brick. Following this leads to another dropshaft chamber which incidentally is a short distance away from the other one. Right before the edge there are ten poles (aka “tell-tales”) suspended from anchors in the ceiling.</p>
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	<a href="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/2009/09/vibrapipe02.jpg"><img src="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/2009/09/vibrapipe02.jpg" alt="vibrapipe02" width="400" height="600" /></a>
	<div>Suspended tell-tales inside the last walkable portion of the CSPC.</div>
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<p>You’ll see these in Montreal sewers before any significant drop. The poles  swing back and forth easily and are there to remind workers that they are near the edge of something that they could fall down into. In this case one 10 foot deep pit, with the other one  just  a bit further downstream is probably as good a place as any to put them.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also a good place to turn around and head back home.</p>
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		<title>The &#8216;Tell-Tale&#8217; Mystery of the Underground</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 19:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andrew.</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tell-tales suspended inside the Cote-St-Paul collector sewer. One thing that&#8217;s been bugging me for the past couple of years is what purpose these suspended metal poles serve. They&#8217;re always found close to the top edge of a dropshaft that&#8217;s six or more feet in height.  Sometimes there are just one or two, or in the [...]]]></description>
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	<div>Tell-tales suspended inside the Cote-St-Paul collector sewer.</div>
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<p>One thing that&#8217;s been bugging me for the past couple of years is what purpose these suspended metal poles serve. They&#8217;re always found close to the top edge of a dropshaft that&#8217;s six or more feet in height.  Sometimes there are just one or two, or in the case of the sewer I was in last night, sometimes there&#8217;s a large batch of them. They&#8217;re always the same width and made with the same material. There are also eyelets at both ends of the pole: a large one at the top that fits through the fixture in the ceiling and a smaller one at the bottom. Both the old more recently built sewer systems in Montreal have them.</p>
<p>I once came across some blueprints from the City which referred to these poles as &#8220;tell-tales&#8221; but that doesn&#8217;t really &#8220;tell&#8221; me anything at all.  They&#8217;re fairly light and swing back and forth easily if pushed. They&#8217;re not robust enough to serve as safety features, though they do come in handy for hanging onto if ever you want to step out close to the edge.  A chain or an actual railing would be much more practical if that&#8217;s what they were supposed to be used for.</p>
<p>They also don&#8217;t seem to be there to measure flow rates or water levels. The trash that accumulates on them gives some indication as to how high things might have been in the past, but wouldn&#8217;t provide the degree of accuracy to satisfy hydraulic engineers.</p>
<p>I know that tell-tales are <a href="http://http://www.wb-sails.fi/news/95_11_Tellingtales/Tellingtales.html" target="_blank">used in sailing</a> to help gauge wind direction and speed. I suppose that if there was a large enough air disturbance in the sewer, these poles <em>might</em> start start moving a little. Water falling down a dropshaft can definitely cause changes in air pressure which can often lead to problems, but I&#8217;d be surprised if the poles were hung up to indicate  that. I mean,  it also seems like a pretty low-rent way of doing it.</p>
<p>Anyone else out there have any ideas? Please don&#8217;t make me call the City&#8217;s Public Works department to get an answer for this one. You&#8217;re my only hope.</p>
<p><em>Update &#8211; As a friend of mine pointed out:</em></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I&#8217;m pretty sure the dangling things are warning devices similar to <a href="http://wprrhs.org/images/standards/telltale.jpg" target="_blank">these</a>. They&#8217;d indicate to anyone riding on top of a car an impending area of low clearance like an underpass. Underground, I suppose if a worker was disoriented and/or his flashlight died, a smack to the face from one these would prevent him from walking off a ledge.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><em>Works for me!</em> <em>Thanks, Rich.</em></p>
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