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		<title>Trouble Underground</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[How exploring sewers can get you arrested. A personal account of my experiences involving the law during the spring of 2010.]]></description>
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	<div>Inside Toronto's Garrison Creek relief sewer, where problems first began.</div>
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<p>The past month or so has been interesting, to say the least. I suppose that followers of this site are used to sporadic updates by now. Usually it&#8217;s because other things are keeping me busy or distracted and while <a href="http://www.undermontreal.com/away-to-athens/">my trip</a> to Greece has certainly kept me busy, this last bout of inactivity stemmed from more serious matters.</p>
<p>A local news broadcast from Toronto is a good a primer to the situation:</p>
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<p>While I could probably write an entire entry detailing the inaccuracies of that one report, it did get a few key details correct. A <a href="http://www.vanishingpoint.ca" target="_blank">friend </a>and I were arrested after a passerby noticed the two of us entering a sewer system in a residential area of Toronto and decided to call the police. While we were underground, blissfully unaware of the situation brewing above us, an entire fleet of emergency response teams were brought in to investigate the situation.</p>
<p>It was obvious that they reacted to the situation without knowing just who or what they were dealing with; this isn&#8217;t exactly the sort of thing that happens on a routine basis in any city. Workers proceeded to enter the sewer via a winch and harness system. They assumed that conditions below them were too dangerous to navigate, so only travelled as far through the system as the ropes they were tethered to allowed.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><div class="img aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1333" style="width:545px;">
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	<div>A stretch deemed too dangerous to navigate through without the aid of ropes.</div>
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<p>Getting caught was the result of bad luck, but also poor decisions, the kind that are easy to make after doing this for years without ever having faced any serious consequences. You begin to feel less nervous about doing things over time, like opening up manhole covers while other people are nearby. You start to forget about the little things that can often lead to consequences.</p>
<p>While I&#8217;ve had run-ins with various people (including police officers) in the past, misunderstandings have usually been cleared up on the spot. Based on what I&#8217;ve heard, this has generally been the case with other people around the world involved in similar activities. So it&#8217;s easy to feel complacent and maybe even a bit cocky, but I suppose it was a given that something like this would happen eventually.</p>
<p>After the police discovered the two of us, or rather, after we gave ourselves up, we were brought to the station (yes, in handcuffs) and questioned individually. My policy is always to be up-front about everything I do. I showed them the pictures on the camera , told them why I was down there, gave them the URL for this site and hoped for the best.</p>
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<p>Some officers found the situation humourous, while others were astonished that two people would deliberately enter what they thought was a shit-infested tunnel that spelled instant death. It seemed as though everyone there who had never set foot underground before in their lives was suddenly an expert. &#8220;You two are lucky to be alive!&#8221;</p>
<p>Aside from their concern, jokes were made and compliments were paid to our photography, but it was hard to laugh along or feel flattered knowing that there was a chance that I might receive a criminal record. In most scenarios, a situation like this would warrant a provincial-level trespassing fine, which is a touch more expensive than a parking ticket. That wasn&#8217;t going to be the case here.</p>
<p>After several hours we were fingerprinted and had our mugshots taken, and the two of us were let go for the night, and told that under no circumstances were we to talk to one another outside of legal council. Of course, we were also forbidden to enter sewers or areas related to &#8220;public works.&#8221;</p>
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<p>After arriving home, interview requests started showing up in my inbox from various media outlets who had caught wind of the story, probably by listening in on events using police scanners. They only escalated over the course of the day. Knowing how often dialogue can be misquoted or taken out of context, I decided it was best not to respond to any of it. I also avoided commenting on the situation on my site.</p>
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	<div>Subtitle from the Toronto Star. I have no idea where they got the term 'undergrounding' from.</div>
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<p>The following day, our man bites dog story had officially entered the daily news cycle and while a lot of it was inaccurate and exaggerated, it didn&#8217;t go as terribly as I expected. Maybe this was the result of the two of us having a good amount of material online that even the laziest of journalists could use as a reference point. It probably also helped having intelligent people who spoke well on our behalf. Also, if the <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2010/04/05/sewer-explorers.html#socialcomments" target="_blank">comments</a> left on news sites were any indication, there was a good deal of public support behind us. (And anyone who reads online comments knows that they&#8217;re often the last place you can expect to find support.)</p>
<p>24 hours later news agencies had moved onto the next big strange story, which was something of a relief. I&#8217;m not adverse to being in the media, but I disliked the idea of having what I do being framed around the arrest. The legal aspect isn&#8217;t something that I generally talk about here, partly because I feel it would be distracting, but also because I wouldn&#8217;t want anyone to get the impression that it&#8217;s a reason why I do any of this.</p>
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	<div>Nice headline in an otherwise terrible article. (See link at bottom of entry to read it in its entirety.)</div>
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<p>While the criminal charge was considered to be light, the following days I, along with my <a href="http://www.bibliographic.net">wife</a>, were a bit nervous about what might happen. The court date was set at the end of the month, but not having ever been in this sort of situation before, we were dependent on the generous levels of support and advice we received from family, friends and strangers alike.</p>
<p>The more advice we received, the clearer it became that the charge of mischief wasn&#8217;t something that would stick in relation to our situation. At the same time, we decided it would be a good idea to obtain some form of legal representation. We wasted no time in finding a lawyer who confirmed that it would be difficult to find us guilty of a charge that&#8217;s usually reserved for acts of vandalism or other activities where ill-intent is involved. Still, it wasn&#8217;t clear how long it might take for the charges to be dropped or how much any of it was going to cost us financially.</p>
<p>As was anticipated, the charges were eventually withdrawn. We received this good news a couple of weeks ago during the first leg of my hiatus here in Greece and are relieved to put it behind us. Plus, I&#8217;m glad I can now talk to <a href="http://vanishingpoint.ca" target="_blank">my friend</a> without requiring the presence of a lawyer.</p>
<p>While Athens seems to have its share of things worth seeing below street level, it&#8217;s not worth the risk &#8211; any run-ins with the law here might turn out worse than the one in Toronto. Language barriers, unclear trespassing laws and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_proper_by_population_density" target="_blank">one of the highest</a> urban population densities in the world probably wouldn&#8217;t make for the best combination. Aside from this though, I&#8217;m looking forward to photographing another city using a different frame of reference. And I still have a backlog of entries to post about Montreal that I&#8217;ll post over the next few months.</p>
<p>Lastly, I&#8217;d like to thank everyone who offered their support during the course of this past ordeal. I feel indebted to those who took the time to send kind words or to offer advice. It would be easy for something like this to make me feel discouraged or defeated, but on the contrary, I&#8217;m left feeling more validated. Thank you for your kindness.</p>
<p><em><strong>Further reading:</strong></em></p>
<p><strong>Toronto Star  article<br />
</strong> <a href="http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/790701--two-men-arrested-for-late-night-foray-into-sewers?bn=1#photo" target="_blank">http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/790701&#8211;two-men-arrested-for-late-night-foray-into-sewers?bn=1#photo</a><strong></strong></p>
<p><strong>CBC news report</strong><br />
<a href="http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2010/04/05/sewer-explorers.html" target="_blank"> http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2010/04/05/sewer-explorers.html</a><strong></strong></p>
<p><strong>The Hour </strong>(based on an interview I did for a local paper)<br />
<a href="http://www.hour.ca/news/news.aspx?iIDArticle=19676" target="_blank">http://www.hour.ca/news/news.aspx?iIDArticle=19676</a></p>
<p><strong>Spacing Montreal article </strong>(Thanks, Alanah)<strong><br />
</strong> <a href="http://spacingmontreal.ca/2010/04/07/blogger-arrested-in-toronto-sewer-forray/" target="_blank">http://spacingmontreal.ca/2010/04/07/blogger-arrested-in-toronto-sewer-forray/</a></p>
<p><strong>Mischief, as defined by the Canadian Criminal Code<br />
</strong><a href="http://www.efc.ca/pages/law/cc/cc.430.html" target="_blank">http://www.efc.ca/pages/law/cc/cc.430.html</a></p>
<p><strong>The Garrison creek and sewer system</strong><a href="http://www.lostrivers.ca/GarrisonCreek.htm" target="_blank"><br />
http://www.lostrivers.ca/GarrisonCreek.htm</a><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garrison_Creek" target="_blank"><br />
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garrison_Creek</a><a href="http://humanriver.ca/?page_id=39" target="_blank"></p>
<p>http://humanriver.ca/?page_id=39</a></p>
<p><strong>Other sewers and storm drains in toronto</strong><br />
<a href="http://vanishingpoint.ca/d_tor.html" target="_blank">http://vanishingpoint.ca/d_tor.html</a><br />
<a href="http://pipecleaner.wordpress.com/">http://pipecleaner.wordpress.com/</a></p>
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		<title>The Infinite Possibilities of Things Found Elsewhere</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 05:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A road trip weekend results in a look through some of the unique underground features of Toronto and Rochester, NY.]]></description>
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	<div>The lovely three meter wide brick pipe of Toronto's &quot;Humble Howard.&quot; </div>
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<p>A couple of weeks ago I made a trip back to my old underground stomping (sloshing?) grounds of Toronto to go and have a look at a recent discovery made by a group of <a href="http://angelsoftheunderground.ca" target="_blank">local explorers</a>. &#8220;Humble Howard&#8221;, named after Toronto&#8217;s first land surveyor <a href="http://www.thestar.com/comment/columnists/article/165464" target="_blank">John Howard</a>, consists of a 3 meter-high circular brick sewer that starts at the northeastern edge of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Park" target="_blank">High Park</a> and eventually makes it way down towards Lake Ontario. Today it serves primarily as an overflow conduit for the smaller sewers if ever ever the city&#8217;s interceptors become overburdened.</p>
<p>The evening I visited the system with <a href="http://www.vanishingpoint.ca">Kowalski</a>, <a href="http://www.uer.ca/~nel58/photos/" target="_blank">nel58</a> and <a href="http://www.controleman.ca" target="_blank">Controleman</a> led to the discovery of a beautiful  (but extremely foggy) connecting sewer built of brick and concrete. Its shape and overall atmosphere  gave it a certain warmth and coziness. I would have gladly followed it to its conclusion had it not been so late in the evening at that point.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><div class="img aligncenter" style="width:400px;">
	<a href="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/2009/09/highthere011.jpg" rel="lightbox[967]"><img src="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/2009/09/highthere011-400x592.jpg" alt="highthere01" width="400" height="592" /></a>
	<div>Inside the combined sewer that was given the nickname &quot;High There.&quot;</div>
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<p>While I can&#8217;t say I&#8217;ve missed Toronto that much since moving to Montreal three years ago, I am envious of its range of possibilities when it comes to exploring the underground. Even after a decade of people actively exploring it and looking for new things to get into, there&#8217;s still a feeling that there&#8217;s still a lot of infrastructure down there that remains untapped.</p>
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<p style="text-align: center;"><div class="img aligncenter" style="width:400px;">
	<a href="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/2009/09/humblehoward021.jpg" rel="lightbox[967]"><img src="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/2009/09/humblehoward021-400x593.jpg" alt="humblehoward02" width="400" height="593" /></a>
	<div>Brick meets concrete somewhere at the south end of Toronto's &quot;Humble Howard&quot;</div>
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<p>That&#8217;s not to say that Toronto has better or more interesting stuff (most of the time, anyway) , but because it&#8217;s so spread out and is, in many ways, a bit more cosmopolitan, there&#8217;s always a sense that one could never run out of new things to find and to try and get into. Just when you think everything in that city has already been cracked, something new and exciting inevitably comes along.</p>
<p>Montreal, on the other hand, tends to feel a bit more finite in its opportunities. While we have an extensive sewer system, much of which can be walked through, it tends to lack in other areas such as steam and service tunnels or infrastructure related to its waterworks. I get the feeling that in a couple of years, I&#8217;ll be starting to run out of things to put down on my to-do list. I have no reason to complain right now, not while I still have a pile of things to get to and to try and document well,  but I can feel it coming.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><div class="img aligncenter size-medium wp-image-995" style="width:545px;">
	<a href="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/2009/09/rochester011.jpg" rel="lightbox[967]"><img src="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/2009/09/rochester011-545x363.jpg" alt="rochester01" width="545" height="363" /></a>
	<div>What appears to be an overflow pit for a low-level sewer found on the right side of Rochester's Densmore Creek drain.</div>
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<p>Rochester is another city that seems ripe for great discoveries, mostly because it&#8217;s an old city, but also because so little of it seems to have been examined in detail thus far. It also features the impressive <a href="http://www.glslcities.org/RPWDCSCSOAP~1.pdf">Deep-Rock Tunnel System</a>, a sewer overflow system that puts Montreal&#8217;s <a href="www.undermontreal.com/montreal-interceptor-sewer-system/">interceptor network</a> to shame.</p>
<p>After reading about the exploits of two underground enthusiasts living there, we decided to take the long way back to Montreal and meet up with the two of them. &#8220;Trent&#8221; and &#8220;Whittaker Owens&#8221; guided us through a rather interesting storm drainage system that involves a mammoth overflow chamber, colloquially referred to as the &#8220;Titanic Room&#8221; due to the bow-like structure planted in the middle of the room.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><div class="img aligncenter size-large wp-image-996" style="width:400px;">
	<a href="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/2009/09/rochester021.jpg" rel="lightbox[967]"><img src="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/2009/09/rochester021-400x600.jpg" alt="rochester02" width="400" height="600" /></a>
	<div>Inside Rochester's &quot;Titanic Room&quot; aka the overflow chamber of the Densmore Diversion Facility.</div>
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<p>The rest of the drain is arch-shaped, similar in style, but far larger than Toronto&#8217;s &#8220;High There&#8221; and the Point St. Charles Collector of Montreal.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><div class="img aligncenter" style="width:400px;">
	<a href="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/2009/09/rochester031.jpg" rel="lightbox[967]"><img src="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/2009/09/rochester031-400x595.jpg" alt="rochester03" width="400" height="595" /></a>
	<div>Inside the big arch that makes up the better part of this Rochester drain.</div>
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<p>Also of interest along the way were two flooded stone pits located off to the side with the smell of combined sewerflow wafting up from below. I&#8217;m not familiar enough with the city&#8217;s system to be able to make sense of how all of this fits together. I&#8217;ll leave any explanations to its local explorers who know far more about these things than I do.</p>
<p><strong>Additional  underground reading &amp; viewing:</strong></p>
<p><strong>Toronto</strong><br />
<a href="http://www.vanishingpoint.ca" target="_blank">Vanishing Point</a><br />
<a href="http://angelsoftheunderground.ca" target="_blank">Angels of the Underground</a><br />
<a href="http://jonmuldoon.ca/mold/index.php?x=browse&amp;category=2" target="_blank">Jon Muldoon&#8217;s image collection</a></p>
<p><strong>Rochester</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/infinitedecay/collections/72157606276475984/">Trent&#8217;s Flickr collections</a></p>
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		<title>Dead Ends and Signs of Life Inside the Point St. Charles Collector</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 03:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pottery, plants, and mosquitoes. A trip through the Victorian era sewers of Point St. Charles illustrates what we can learn from our city's underground.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: center;"><div class="img aligncenter" style="width:400px;">
	<a href="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/2009/08/st_charles_collector06.jpg" rel="lightbox[941]"><img src="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/2009/08/st_charles_collector06-400x600.jpg" alt="Shafts used for snow dumps below Bridge Street." width="400" height="600" /></a>
	<div>A shaft underneath Bridge Street once used for dumping snow into the sewers.</div>
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<p>Perhaps the most interesting underground features in the Montreal area are found within the old sewers built during the mid to late 1800s. Usually constructed entirely of brick and of sizes up to 9’ in diameter, they often appear to be steeped in history in a way that newer concrete sewers just can’t compare to. They have a warmer and organic quality to them as well that I tend to appreciate. Where concrete sewer systems can feel like cold modernist pieces of architecture, the brick ones seem more like inviting Victorian homes.</p>
<p>A good example of these characteristics can be found within the Point St. Charles Collector. As its name implies, this sewer was responsible for the drainage of the eastern half of Point St. Charles. (The western half was serviced by another sewer that I first started to explore in this <a href="http://www.undermontreal.com/brick-and-tile-sewers/" target="_self">entry</a>). The sewer was also responsible for a portion of the neighbourhood once known as Victoriatown. Given that so little from this area can still be found at street level, it’s of some comfort that at least its sewer system can still be found and explored today.</p>
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<p><strong>Getting Started</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><div class="img aligncenter size-medium wp-image-946" style="width:545px;">
	<a href="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/2009/08/pointstcharlescollector_overview.jpg" rel="lightbox[941]"><img src="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/2009/08/pointstcharlescollector_overview-545x342.jpg" alt="Late 1880s representation of Montreal superimposed with the paths of the Point St. Charles Collector." width="545" height="342" /></a>
	<div>Late 1880s representation of Montreal superimposed with the paths of the Point St. Charles Collector. The oldest portion of the sewer is shown here in red.</div>
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<p>The oldest section of this particular system was constructed between 1862 and 1864, a time when the city was starting to implement its first master drainage plan. While some stretches of the creeks running along Craig Street (now St. Antoine) and William had already been covered over, the Point St Charles collector represented the beginning of a new era of widespread and methodical wastewater management. Five additional collector sewers would be built during this same time, only a few years after London and Paris finished developing their now legendary underground systems.</p>
<p>In its initial stages, the outlet of the Point Saint Charles collector was situated at the edge of a drainage channel for the Lachine Canal. This channel has mostly been covered over, but a portion of it can still be seen today underneath the Bonaventure highway opposite <a href="http://wikimapia.org/5308577/Farine-Five-Roses" target="_blank">Farine Five Roses</a>. In this same area, the <a href="http://www.imtl.org/montreal/building/Station_de_pompage_Riverside.php" target="_blank">Riverside Pumping Station</a> was added in 1887 to help alleviate the system during spring floods. Shortly thereafter, a secondary sewer line was also added. A larger and deeper concrete tunnel would come decades later, and then another one still came during the 1990s with the introduction of the island’s <a href="http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&amp;source=web&amp;ct=res&amp;cd=1&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.undermontreal.com%2Fmontreal-interceptor-sewer-system%2F&amp;ei=bgKSSsThC4uGlAeBm82tDA&amp;rct=j&amp;q=under+montreal+intereceptors&amp;usg=AFQjCNGGsiHFwnkuT7Q0cpjs2zkDhNrpZA&amp;sig2=BHZPgAmugv4bgAELaebiHg" target="_self">interceptor network</a>.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Today, the area is a confusing mash-up of old meets new technology which is hard to make sense of even when you’re inside.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><div class="img aligncenter size-medium wp-image-947" style="width:545px;">
	<a href="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/2009/08/pointstcharlescollector_systemmap1.jpg" rel="lightbox[941]"><img src="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/2009/08/pointstcharlescollector_systemmap1-545x353.jpg" alt="The underground spaghetti junction found at the intersection of Bridge and Riverside." width="545" height="353" /></a>
	<div>The underground spaghetti junction found at the intersection of Bridge and Riverside.</div>
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<p><strong>Inside The System</strong></p>
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	<a href="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/2009/08/st_charles_collector03.jpg" rel="lightbox[941]"><img src="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/2009/08/st_charles_collector03-400x600.jpg" alt="Standing inside the lovely 147 year old egg-shaped section. " width="400" height="600" /></a>
	<div>Standing inside the lovely 147 year old egg-shaped section. </div>
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<p>Using this area as a starting point, one can make their way a short distance into the oldest 4&#215;6&#8242; section of the sewer. I say a short distance, because, for whatever reason, the section approaching Bridge St. is filled to the top with rubble.</p>
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	<a href="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/2009/08/st_charles_collector07.jpg" rel="lightbox[941]"><img src="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/2009/08/st_charles_collector07-545x363.jpg" alt="As far as you can get through the oldest section of the sewer." width="545" height="363" /></a>
	<div>As far as you can get through the oldest section of the sewer.</div>
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<p><strong>Digging Through History</strong></p>
<p>I imagine there must have been a fair amount of trial and error when it implementing drainage systems in the 1800s. In this case it’s unclear if the tunnel simply collapsed or of it was deliberately taken out of commission and filled with whatever was convenient at the time.</p>
<p>The last 50 meters or so of this section are half full of debris which makes it a bit uncomfortable to get through. It’s strictly crawling-height at this point, with the only payoff coming from being able to play guerrilla archaeologist while sifting through the rubble. Here you’ll find fragments of old glass, pottery and other unidentifiable materials. I’ve yet to find anything valuable inside a sewer in Montreal, but the bits and pieces of objects encountered in some areas are often interesting enough to make a bit of digging worthwhile. Just mind the worms. And the mosquitoes, too.</p>
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	<a href="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/2009/08/pointstcharlescollector_artifacts.jpg" rel="lightbox[941]"><img src="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/2009/08/pointstcharlescollector_artifacts-545x371.jpg" alt="Various artifacts recovered from within the sewer rubble. " width="545" height="371" /></a>
	<div>Various artifacts recovered from within the sewer rubble. </div>
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<p>A few minutes of picking through the debris revealed the crown of a dark hand-blown bottle that closely resembles the one shown <a href="http://www.sha.org/bottle/finishstyles.htm#Oil%20or%20Ring" target="_blank">here</a> for Hostetter&#8217;s Stomach Bitters. Regardless of what company the bottle came from, it likely dates from at least the 1870s.</p>
<p><strong>The Second Line</strong></p>
<div class="img aligncenter size-large wp-image-950" style="width:400px;">
	<a href="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/2009/08/st_charles_collector021.jpg" rel="lightbox[941]"><img src="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/2009/08/st_charles_collector021-400x600.jpg" alt="Inside the placid stretch of the collector that was later built during the 1880s." width="400" height="600" /></a>
	<div>Inside the placid stretch of the collector that was later built during the 1880s.</div>
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<p>Perhaps as a result of problems encountered with this older sewer, a second relief line was later built that runs parallel to the original one for most of its course. Its exact construction date is unknown, but it’s safe to say it was probably built during the late 1880s around the same time the Riverside Pumping Station was completed.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">A bit of a tight squeeze through a 2&#215;3 foot side-pipe will allow you to enter this section. It has a wonderful arched shape which is common in other cities, but is something that I haven’t encountered before in Montreal. From here it’s easy to get through thanks to a hard layer of sediment lining the bottom that you can easily walk on top of. This 1km long stretch  is almost 7’ in height, but the grit and gravel removes at least a foot from this.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Unlike other sewers built around this time, there were no streams passing through this territory whose waters could be redirected to help keep the system free from silt and other debris. I don’t imagine the smaller sewer connections entering from the nearby stockyards and the Grand Trunk Railway shops could have helped much either.</p>
<p>Things are fine up until you reach the intersection of Bridge and Wellington where the sewer makes an abrupt turn to the west. Here the solid base of debris becomes a sloppy mess that’s less forgiving when it comes to supporting your weight and it’s at this point where things start to get fairly uninviting. The 130 year old brickwork changes to a shorter and much newer pre-fabricated concrete pipe that’s half-full of water. At this point there isn’t much incentive to push forward so your best bet is to turn around, go down Bridge Street and head back out.</p>
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	<a href="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/2009/08/st_charles_collector05.jpg" rel="lightbox[941]"><img src="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/2009/08/st_charles_collector05-400x600.jpg" alt="What are most likely the roots of a poplar tree that have found their way into the moisture of the sewers." width="400" height="600" /></a>
	<div>What are most likely the roots of a poplar tree that have found their way into the moisture of the sewers.</div>
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<p>One interesting feature of this stretch is the vegetation that’s managed to finagle its way in through to the sewer in search of water. The roots of some trees have taken the easy route in through smaller connecting pipes, but in other cases, some roots have actually pushed their way right through the mortar of the brickwork itself—no small feat considering most of these older sewers were lined using 2-3 rows of bricks.</p>
<div class="img aligncenter size-medium wp-image-952" style="width:545px;">
	<a href="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/2009/08/pointstcharlescollector_roots.jpg" rel="lightbox[941]"><img src="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/2009/08/pointstcharlescollector_roots-545x362.jpg" alt="Smaller roots that were determined to find their way to water through the brickwork." width="545" height="362" /></a>
	<div>Smaller roots that were determined to find their way to water through the brickwork.</div>
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<p>The line of poplar trees and sumac situated in an area that the sewer passes through are the likely infiltrators. Half these trees look healthy, while the other half look as though they’re about to die so it’s hard to say just what effect the sewage is having on them. I&#8217;ll let the botanists and environmentalist out there figure this one out.</p>
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	<a href="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/2009/08/pointstcharlescollector_trees.jpg" rel="lightbox[941]"><img src="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/2009/08/pointstcharlescollector_trees-545x363.jpg" alt="The line of trees South of Mill Street that are presumably drawing water from the sewers." width="545" height="363" /></a>
	<div>The line of trees South of Mill Street that are presumably drawing water from the sewers.</div>
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		<title>Montreal Waterworks, Part II &#8211; Inside the Conduit</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[An exploration of Montreal's former water intake tunnel and its role in the city's "water famine" of 1913.]]></description>
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	<a href="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/aqueduc02.jpg" rel="lightbox[818]"><img src="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/aqueduc02-545x363.jpg" alt="aqueduc02" width="545" height="363" /></a>
	<div>Inside the City of Montreal's former water intake conduit</div>
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<p>In my<a href="http://www.undermontreal.com/waterworks_aqueduct/"> last entry</a> I talked about Montreal’s Aqueduct canal and its role in bringing water to the city of Montreal. In this entry, we&#8217;ll begin to go underground, but first, a bit more history&#8230;</p>
<p>I mentioned the use of hydraulic machinery and how it was powered by water by the aqueduct. Only a small portion of that water (less than 5%) was actually sent through the pipes and into homes and businesses. By the late 1800s, several problems with this system started to make it less than ideal. The first issue was that demand for water was increasing and more horsepower was required to distribute it. The aqueduct at the turn of the century, roughly a quarter the width it is today, was incapable of providing the hydraulic horsepower necessary to power the pumps.</p>
<p>On top of this, the success of system was often at the whims of mother nature. Low water levels in the summer and ice blockages in the winter frequently reduced pumping capacity. As a result, steam power, which was both cost and labour intensive, would then have to be used as a back-up.</p>
<p><span id="more-818"></span>Another problem was that the water was being brought in directly close the shoreline of the St. Lawrence River, which by this time was starting to become less than pure. City officials maintained that the water posed no health risks. However, there was a concern that drainage from properties situated upstream of the entrance to the aqueduct had the potential to cause future problems. Given that there was still no filtration process yet in place (and wouldn’t be until the early 1920s), engineers were starting to become somewhat mindful of what could possibly be entering the city&#8217;s water supply.</p>
<p><strong>20th Century Solutions<br />
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<p><strong><a href="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/conduit_diagrams.jpg" rel="lightbox[818]"><img class="size-medium wp-image-828 alignnone" src="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/conduit_diagrams-545x182.jpg" alt="conduit_diagrams" width="545" height="182" /></a><br />
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<p>To address the shortage of available horsepower, in 1907, after two decades worth of proposals and deliberations, it was decided to widen the aqueduct from 40 to 140 feet. Along with upgrades to pumping equipment, the alteration would provide a total of 2,500 HP during the winter months. A rate of 5,000 HP during the summer was achievable when the aqueduct was free of ice, or ‘<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frazil_ice" target="_blank">frazil</a>&#8216;.</p>
<p>To help improve quality of water, a 9’ concrete conduit running underneath the aqueduct’s north shore was built between 1907 and 1909. In addition, the intake for this conduit would extend towards the middle of the St. Lawrence, where the water was less likely to contain sediment. By enclosing the water inside this underground pipe, the risk of further cross-contamination would also be diminished. The conduit would also serve as a continuous water supply while the aqueduct was emptied during its widening.</p>
<p><strong>Rumour Has It.</strong></p>
<p>I first learned of the conduit a couple of years ago, not through the city archives or maps, but from a <a href="http://verdunourhometown.yuku.com/forums/124" target="_blank">message board</a> dedicated to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verdun,_Quebec" target="_blank">Verdun</a> . In a bit of oral history, an older member recollected a time during his youth when he and his friends would open a manhole cover near the north side of the Crawford Street Bridge and climb down into a ‘9 foot pipe.’ This was enough to pique my interest. I decided to go have a look for myself.</p>
<p>When I arrived, the only manhole I could find in the area was now in the middle of Blvd De La Verendrye- a rather busy thoroughfare. If it was the same one he entered, then it must have been before the 1960s which was when they built the road . I walked further along the street hoping to find other options, but every single one was situated in the road. Feeling a bit dejected, I filed it under ‘things to look for if ever bored’ and left it at that.</p>
<p>A few months passed before I came across another reference to the conduit, this time in a city planning document from the 1930s. I learned that the pipe was connected to the waterworks system. A few weeks later, when Controleman came back from the City Planning department with a handful of sewer maps, one of which made clear where the conduit ran, that it was no longer in use, and more importantly, where the best point of entry was located.</p>
<div class="img alignnone size-full wp-image-823" style="width:545px;">
	<a href="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/aqueduc_conduit_citymap.jpg" rel="lightbox[818]"><img src="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/aqueduc_conduit_citymap.jpg" alt="aqueduc_conduit_citymap" width="545" height="375" /></a>
	<div>City planning map detail showing aqueduc and the old water conduit (in red).</div>
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<p>In what I consider to be a continuation of underground exploration traditions, our entry point ended up being but a few feet away from the manhole that the older gentleman from Verdun once used. A three foot high drainage pipe within Parc Angrignon, just large enough the crawl through, provides a 21st century means of access.</p>
<p><strong>Inside the Conduit.</strong></p>
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	<a href="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/aqueduc01.jpg" rel="lightbox[818]"><img src="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/aqueduc01-545x363.jpg" alt="aqueduc01" width="545" height="363" /></a>
	<div>Manhole chamber (and groundwater infiltration) underneath Blvd. Verendrye </div>
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<p>The conduit itself resembles many of Montreal’s older concrete sewers, but with pronounced horizontal lines from the wooden forms that were used during construction. For a century old tunnel, it’s in excellent. The water is, at times, thigh-deep, but it is slow moving and not that much of an issue assuming you have the stamina to wade through it for long periods of time. Sewage can be detected, but for the most part the water is cleaner than what is usually encountered underground in Montreal. I wouldn’t want to drink it, but I wouldn’t mind falling in it either.</p>
<p>As a testament to its cleanliness, small fish can often be spotted over the course of its length. During one trip, I even came across about a half dozen <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proteidae" target="_blank">mud-puppies</a> that somehow got swept into the system and have done their best to make this dark tunnel their home.</p>
<div class="img alignnone size-medium wp-image-821" style="width:545px;">
	<a href="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/mudpuppy.jpg" rel="lightbox[818]"><img src="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/mudpuppy-545x363.jpg" alt="mudpuppy" width="545" height="363" /></a>
	<div>One of many Mud-puppies spotted inside the conduit. This particular one was close a foot in length.</div>
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<p><strong>The Montreal Water Famine of 1913</strong></p>
<p>By the winter of 1913, work had begun to widen the canal an additional 25 feet. This further widening was commenced to help generate electrical power for the city’s lighting systems. Rather than have to expropriate additional land on the south side of the canal, the City decided to make the enlargement on the north shore instead, close to where the conduit ran. It’s here where all sorts of problems began.</p>
<p>In the midst of this second enlargement, a two-foot long portion of the conduit was damaged. Workers did their best to try and repair the break, but a few days later, sixty feet worth of the conduit collapsed. The damage left close to 300,000 people in Montreal without a proper water supply. Adding insult to injury, the event occurred on Christmas Day  — never a good time for catastrophe to strike.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><div class="img aligncenter size-full wp-image-825" style="width:373px;">
	<a href="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/waterfamine_nyt1.jpg" rel="lightbox[818]"><img src="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/waterfamine_nyt1.jpg" alt="waterfamine_nyt1" width="373" height="480" /></a>
	<div>New York Times headline from Dec 28th, 1913.</div>
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<p>City workers scrambled to repair the break while the people of Montreal had to receive water through water carts or from properties fortunate enough to have access to Cartesian wells. In one instance, Ogilvy’s department store, with a 1,200 foot deep artesian well in its basement, was able to provide water for people in the area. Meanwhile, large factories such as the Angus Shops had to be temporarily closed, while streets were patrolled day and night to react quickly to the first sign of fire.</p>
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	<a href="http://bibnum2.banq.qc.ca/bna/massic/detail/a-22-a.jpg" rel="lightbox[818]"><img src="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/waterfamine_archives.jpg" alt="waterfamine_archives" width="545" height="444" /></a>
	<div>Buckets of water being handed out from a casks during the shortage.</div>
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<p>The  conduit was eventually repaired four days after its collapse using sections of boiler plate riveted together to form a steel pipe. Wasting no time, the city decided to let water through the length of the conduit as soon as the concrete surrounding the pipe had finished setting.</p>
<div class="img alignnone size-full wp-image-820" style="width:545px;">
	<a href="http://bibnum2.banq.qc.ca/bna/massic/detail/8-103-a.jpg" rel="lightbox[818]"><img src="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/aqueduc_colapse.jpg" alt="aqueduc_colapse" width="545" height="518" /></a>
	<div>1913 newspaper clipping showing the repaired section of the conduit as well as the dry aqueduct to the right of it. </div>
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<p>The joints held, and close to a century later the steel pipe can still be found. It&#8217;s a great deal rustier, but despite this, it&#8217;s holding up well.</p>
<div class="img size-medium wp-image-826 alignnone" style="width:545px;">
	<a href="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/aqueduc_steelpipe.jpg" rel="lightbox[818]"><img src="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/aqueduc_steelpipe-545x363.jpg" alt="aqueduc_steelpipe" width="545" height="363" /></a>
	<div>The steel pipe section today.</div>
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<p>While the conduit repair was successful, the city’s confidence in its water supply was severely shaken. An investigative report submitted to the city’s Board of Commissioners blamed the collapse on both the materials used during construction of the conduit as well as the excavation that had been taking place at the time.</p>
<p>More importantly, the report made several recommendations that would help prevent another such calamity from occurring. Based on the report, an emergency supply pipe running from the Lachine Canal to the pumping engines was soon added as a temporary solution. Ensuring a more reliable back-up supply system wouldn&#8217;t come until later.</p>
<p><strong>Yesterday and Today.</strong></p>
<p>It’s not clear at this point when the city stopped using the conduit  for its drinking water supply. It likely became obsolete by the time the filtration plant was put into operation during the 1920s. Impure water running the length of the open aqueduct was less of an issue after that. Repositioning of the system&#8217;s  intake pipes probably also ensured a cleaner supply as well. Also unclear is when (and why) the City officially abandoned its plans to use the aqueduct for purposes of power generation.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><div class="img aligncenter size-full wp-image-829" style="width:350px;">
	<a href="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/desbaillets_outlet.jpg" rel="lightbox[818]"><img src="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/desbaillets_outlet.jpg" alt="Fresh water flowing out from underneath the Des Baillets water treatment plant." width="350" height="525" /></a>
	<div>Fresh water flowing out from underneath a syphon that presumably connects to the Des Baillets water treatment plant. A makeshift ladder sits off to the side.</div>
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<p>Today the conduit is still in use, both as a sewer for LaSalle and as an overflow tunnel for the Charles Des Baillets water purification plant which was built during the 1970s. The aforementioned relatively clean water and levels of sand (fare probably attributable to the plant&#8217;s filtering system.  A walled off section prevents water from the River from entering the conduit directly.  Before this, a section of the conduit has been replaced with a junction chamber with one pipe leading towards the discharge tunnel of the plant.</p>
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	<a href="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/aqueduc_junctionchamber.jpg" rel="lightbox[818]"><img src="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/aqueduc_junctionchamber-545x363.jpg" alt="aqueduc_junctionchamber" width="545" height="363" /></a>
	<div>Junction chamber situated near the Des Baillets water treatment plant. Clean water flows in from the right and raw sewage from the left.</div>
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<p>Given that there is currently only one known feasible entry point into the conduit, walking its entire length (and back again) would be a formidable task involving a 16 km round trip. To this date, I’ve walked roughly half its length, but I&#8217;m going to have to find other ways in if I&#8217;m to see the remaining portions.</p>
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		<title>The &#8216;Tell-Tale&#8217; Mystery of the Underground</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 19:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ruminations on what the metal bars and chains dangling from ceilings of sewers might be used for.]]></description>
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	<div>Tell-tales suspended inside the Cote-St-Paul collector sewer.</div>
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<p>One thing that&#8217;s been bugging me for the past couple of years is what purpose these suspended metal poles serve. They&#8217;re always found close to the top edge of a dropshaft that&#8217;s six or more feet in height.  Sometimes there are just one or two, or in the case of the sewer I was in last night, sometimes there&#8217;s a large batch of them. They&#8217;re always the same width and made with the same material. There are also eyelets at both ends of the pole: a large one at the top that fits through the fixture in the ceiling and a smaller one at the bottom. Both the old more recently built sewer systems in Montreal have them.</p>
<p>I once came across some blueprints from the City which referred to these poles as &#8220;tell-tales&#8221; but that doesn&#8217;t really &#8220;tell&#8221; me anything at all. They&#8217;re fairly light and swing back and forth easily if pushed. They&#8217;re not robust enough to serve as safety features, though they do come in handy for hanging onto if ever you want to step out close to the edge.  A chain or an actual railing would be much more practical if that&#8217;s what they were supposed to be used for.</p>
<p>They also don&#8217;t seem to be there to measure flow rates or water levels. The trash that accumulates on them gives some indication as to how high things might have been in the past, but wouldn&#8217;t provide the degree of accuracy to satisfy hydraulic engineers.</p>
<p>I know that tell-tales are <a href="http://http://www.wb-sails.fi/news/95_11_Tellingtales/Tellingtales.html" target="_blank">used in sailing</a> to help gauge wind direction and speed. I suppose that if there was a large enough air disturbance in the sewer, these poles <em>might</em> start start moving a little. Water falling down a dropshaft can definitely cause changes in air pressure which can often lead to problems, but I&#8217;d be surprised if the poles were hung up to indicate  that. I mean,  it also seems like a pretty low-rent way of doing it.</p>
<p>Anyone else out there have any ideas? Please don&#8217;t make me call the City&#8217;s Public Works department to get an answer for this one. You&#8217;re my only hope.</p>
<p><em>Update &#8211; As a friend of mine pointed out:</em></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I&#8217;m pretty sure the dangling things are warning devices similar to <a href="http://wprrhs.org/images/standards/telltale.jpg" target="_blank" rel="lightbox[776]">these</a>. They&#8217;d indicate to anyone riding on top of a car an impending area of low clearance like an underpass. Underground, I suppose if a worker was disoriented and/or his flashlight died, a smack to the face from one these would prevent him from walking off a ledge.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><em>Works for me!</em> <em>Thanks, Rich.</em></p>
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		<title>Below the Point</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 20:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A quick and dirty romp through a 19th century sewer at the edge of Pointe St. Charles.]]></description>
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	<div>Brick and ceramic tile block transition near the intersection of rue D'Argenson and Centre</div>
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<p>Here&#8217;s a nice little find from the other night inside one of the older brick sewers running below Rue D&#8217;argenson in Point St. Charles. I had originally hoped to see something interesting where the sewer passes underneath the Lachine Canal and towards Rue St. Jacques. That ended up being a letdown with nothing but a dead-end chamber near the Canal&#8217;s edge not even worth photographing. Making our way in the opposite direction, we came across something uncommon for Montreal: a 150 meter section constructed using clay tile blocks.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s questionable as to why the transition occurs, but it&#8217;s possible that the brick sewer was initially laid during the late 1800s and the tile section  later during the early 1900s when the streets south of rue Centre began to fill in a bit more.  The sewer likely discharged into Riviere St-Pierre just ahead of the portion that had been converted into an open tailrace channel for the City&#8217;s Waterworks system. From that point everything would have been whisked away to Verdun and out to the St. Lawrence.</p>
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	<div>1913 map showing the area Point St. Charles formerly known as St. Gabriel. The sewer line discussed in this entry has been overlaid in red.</div>
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<p><img style="border: none; margin: 0;" src="http://www.undermontreal.com/images/globe.gif" alt="" /><a href="http://undermontreal.com/maps/index.html?lat=45.477195&amp;lng=-73.572264&amp;zoom=17&amp;type=k" target="_blank"><strong>View this location in Google Maps. </strong></a></p>
<p>During the beginning of the 1900s these pre-cast tile blocks had started to become a fashionable building material in some cities. It required less time and labour to install than brick which would require the setting of multiple layers to ensure both strength and leak resistance. These tile blocks aren&#8217;t at all very common here in Montreal. In fact, I&#8217;ve only seen it used in one other sewer in Hochelaga which my friends and I decided to call <img style="border: none; margin: 0;" src="http://www.undermontreal.com/images/camera.gif" alt="" /> <a href="http://www.undermontreal.com/images/lg/mtl_fantastic_ceramic_tiles.jpg" rel="lightbox[750]">Ceramique Superfantastique</a>. I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;s more of it to be found elsewhere around the city, but my guess is that the abundance of limestone on the island pretty much put an end to its use before it had a chance to take off. With limestone came concrete and when construction practices and manufacturing technologies made it a feasible building material, I&#8217;m sure Montreal was more than willing to take advantage of it.</p>
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	<div>Further inside the stretch of ceramic tile blocks, South of Rue Centre.</div>
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<p>The rest of the sewer is fairly straightforward brickwork, but with a nice amount of calcite formations to give things a somewhat craggy, organic appearance. Beyond the tile blocks are a set of concrete beams, likely added later to help add reinforcement for the set of railway tracks above. Getting past this point would involve some serious crawling. Since none of us felt like getting a face full of sewer water, that would be as far as we&#8217;d go.</p>
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	<div>Crouched inside the brick-lined sewer underneath Rue St. Patrick.</div>
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		<title>Montreal&#8217;s Underground Underdogs</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 06:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Recognizing the accomplishments of underground engineers and construction workers during the city's most expansive era.]]></description>
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	<div>Inside the Molson Collector, somewhere beneath Rue Dickson in 2007</div>
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<p>When it comes to Montreal&#8217;s underground achievements, the Metro system tends to get a lot of the attention. Its sewer system, on the other hand— not so much. This isn&#8217;t really all that surprising. The subway system is something people both use and <em>see</em> all the time, and it&#8217;s also a fair bit more complicated than a network of tunnels designed to carry fluids. Still, in terms of tunneling achievements, the sewers built during the 1950s are worth taking a closer look at if only because they&#8217;re so often ignored.</p>
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	<div>Decarie Raimbault Collector during construction in 1958.</div>
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<p>By the time ground was broken for the first metro line in 1962, close to a decade had already passed since tunnels just as large and as long had been dug out below the surface of the island. As the populations of communities like Ville St. Laurent and Ahuntsic exploded during the post-war boom, problems began to surface beneath the ground. The existing sewer system, with pipes no larger than seven feet in diameter, could no longer handle the demands being put on it. Floods were increasing as were the number of complaints from people getting fed up with sewage spilling out into the streets and basements.</p>
<p><span id="more-699"></span> Household waste was only part of the problem, though. The increase in pavement meant that stormwater previously absorbed by the soil was now running directly into the sewers via catch-basins and street gutters.</p>
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	<div>Flooded streets in Ville St. Laurent during the 1950s.</div>
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<p>By the 1950s, it became obvious that a more substantial water and sewage disposal system was necessary. Actual treatment wasn’t yet an option, let alone on the table as a viable long-term strategy. Decades would pass before the island began work to reach that stage (see my entry on the island’s <a href="http://spacingmontreal.ca/wp-admin/www.undermontreal.com/montreal-interceptor-sewer-system/" target="_blank">Interceptor System</a>).</p>
<p>No, the idea here was simply to get everything into swift waters of Riviere Des Prairies or the St. Lawrence as efficiently as possible, where it would be whisked away from the island someone else to have to worry about.</p>
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<p align="center"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: small; font-style: italic;">Approximate paths of selection of sewers constructed during the 1950s, based on map data from 1962. (Click on lines for names) </span></p>
<p>The plan developed by the city’s Public Works Department under the direction of Lucien L’Allier consisted of several sewer systems to be constructed using a combination of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunnel#Cut-and-cover" target="_blank">cut and cover</a> and deep-level tunelling techniques. Anticipating even further population growth, engineers decided to build them far larger than was necessary at the time.</p>
<p>Each of these collector systems were designed using a “horseshoe” shape built from cast-in-place concrete to a maximum height of 14.5 feet- essentially large enough for one of the city’s Metro cars to pass through. The combined costs for ten sewers built between 1952 and 1962 exceeded 50 million dollars.</p>
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	<div>Atlas Construction employee during an inspection of the Decarie Raimbault sewer in 1958.</div>
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<p>Of note on the northern side of the island was the 13 km long Decarie Raimbault collector. It was built to transfer sewage from areas as far away as Outremont. The Raimbault portion of its name was taken from the sprawling creek system that once stood in its place.</p>
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	<div>Key Construction LTD workers inside a 14' cut-and-cover segment of the Meilleur Atlantique sewer, 1953.</div>
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<p>Also in the same region, the Meilleur Atlantique collector was constructed to bring wastewater from as far South as Villeray to the shores of the community of Bordeaux near the Provincial detention centre.</p>
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	<div>Inside the Molson Collector with the tunnel boring machine nicknamed 'Jumbo' by the Atlas Construction Company.</div>
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<p>On the South shore, the five mile long Molson collector (aka the Molson Creek Tunnel) was designed to deliver wastewater of Anjou, Maisonneuve and Rosemont into the St. Lawrence. Tunneling had initially started in 1937, but its construction was twice halted, once during WW2 and again during the late 1940s when the city decided to catch up on other sewer projects. It wouldn’t see completion until 1956.</p>
<map>Finally, by 1961 the city had finished construction of a 7km sewer which would replace a significant portion of Riviere St. Pierre flowing through Lachine and Southwest Montreal. It’s this stretch that will be the focus of the next entry in the my </map>
<p><a href="http://www.undermontreal.com/tag/riviere-saint-pierre/">Following Riviere St. Pierre</a></p>
<map> series of posts. </map>
<p>(All b&amp;w photos from the City Archives of Montreal)</p>
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		<title>Rivière St. Pierre Part III &#8211; Slips and Slides</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 18:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Taking tumbles while following the subterranean slopes of Riviere St. Pierre.]]></description>
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	<div>Looking out into the Cote St-Luc collector's &quot;shangri-la&quot; chamber.</div>
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<p>Picking up from the <a href="http://www.undermontreal.com/?p=324">last entry</a>, getting beyond the relatively small (yet steep and intimidating) slide of Double Ducker ended up requiring the use of some rope. It&#8217;s common for cities to add features like ladders, handrails or even stairs to allow workers to get up and down sloped sections like this, but I&#8217;ve yet to see anything like that here in Montreal.</p>
<p>So this time with <a href="http://www.uer.ca/~nel58/photos/" target="_blank">nel58</a> and <a href="http://www.controleman.com" target="_blank">controleman</a> along for the ride, we hammered a<br />
<img style="border: none; margin: 0;" src="http://www.undermontreal.com/images/camera.gif" alt="" /><a href="http://www.daghdash.com/alisveris/images/uploads/444444deded.jpg" rel="lightbox[508]">steel piton</a> into the gap where two sections of concrete pipe met, attached a knotted rope and made our way down. Easy peasy, quick and easy.</p>
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	<div>Controleman making use of the rope. The picture makes the drop look a lot smaller than it actually is. (Photo by nel58)</div>
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<p>After the three of us reached the bottom, we headed down around the bend through the four foot pipe. A few minutes later, we arrived at what we had expected this would lead to: the Cote St-Luc Collector (CSLC) sewer. Here, the flow of Double Ducker enters a junction chamber from the right-hand side. A larger conduit, the main section of the CSLC, sits on the left side, perched on top of a slide. The contents of the two sewers flow smoothly over the sloped floor of the chamber eventually emptying into a single ten foot high pipe.</p>
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	<div>The junction where Double Ducker (on right) flows into the Cote St-Luc collector.</div>
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<p>Worth noting here is how you can see this same junction in the river on <img style="border: none; margin: 0;" src="http://www.undermontreal.com/images/camera.gif" alt="" /><a href="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/rsp_map_junction.jpg" target="_blank" rel="lightbox[508]">older maps</a> where a smaller creek veers off towards the West. The sewer system has effectively reversed their roles, though. Now it&#8217;s this smaller arm that carries the majority of the river&#8217;s flow.</p>
<p>Like its official name implies, the CSLC carries the waste from the predominantly residential community of Cote St-Luc as well as the more industrial areas found towards the lower reaches in Lachine. By Montreal&#8217;s standards its a medium-sized sewer, no more than ten feet in height.  It consists mainly of a horseshoe-shaped concrete pipe, perhaps put in place during the early 1960s to accommodate the increasing number of subdivisions being built at the time.</p>
<p>Not wanting to bother with yet another slide, we decided to take the easy route and head downstream first.  After tip-toeing carefully down the sloped floor of the chamber, we began sloshing our way through the concrete pipe that lay before us.</p>
<p>A few minutes later we arrived at an impressive junction chamber which picks up the flow from two other pipes leading into it. One sitting at higher elevations gracefully spills over a ledge into the CSLC creating a tranquil waterfall. It kind of gives the chamber a bit of a Tiki lounge. Les Baxter&#8217;s music and drinks served in coconuts would fit in well here. Whenever I think of this section, I can&#8217;t help but think of the word <em>Shangri-la</em>.</p>
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	<div>Looking upstream from a portion of the Shangri-la chamber.</div>
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<p>Heading further downstream, it started to become clear that we’d be walking through relatively featureless concrete pipe for quite some time before seeing anything out of the ordinary. We decided to turn around, head back upstream to junction we came in through, and try to get up the slide on the left hand side.</p>
<p>Fortunately, this wasn&#8217;t going to require any rope to get up. Its edges were relatively dry and we were able to make it to the top and into the next section of concrete pipe.</p>
<p>Of course, a few hundred feet or so beyond this point, we encountered a much more formidable obstacle, and while it might not look like much in the photo below, it&#8217;s one of the more intense slides I&#8217;ve ever seen. It&#8217;s steep and unlike the other two slides encountered in this system, the water comes down violently, barreling down  through two sections of RCB; a good sign that the sewer was sitting directly below a set of train tracks. If this was in Toronto then there would have been a nice railing or something to hold onto, but like I said,  Montreal tends to lack such underground conveniences.</p>
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	<img src="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/ddstp5.jpg" alt="ddstp5" width="360" height="525" />
	<div>Looking up into the super steep slide. Note: it's actually far worse than it looks here. (Photo by nel58)</div>
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<p>I stood at the bottom about twenty feet behind Controleman, who perhaps not realizing what he was about to get himself into, started climbing upwards. For a moment or two it actually looked as though we&#8217;d all be able to make it to the top of this thing. He made it about a third of the way up, but when he ventured from the dry shoulder of the slide and into the water, that&#8217;s when he lost control. He started sliding downwards a little, which would have been fine had his one foot not slipped out from underneath of him. Poor Controleman took a bit of a fall, then managed to get back up, at which point he started sliding again, straight towards me. Being a fair bit heavier than myself, I thought he was going to end up knocking me clear off my feet, but I was able to catch hold of him before the situation became any worse.</p>
<p>So now with Controleman thoroughly soaked (and maybe a little bit shaken up too), we decided it would probably be a good time to start heading back out. If we wanted to get past this particular section, it was going to require finding another way past it, perhaps through a manhole further upstream. We gathered up our stuff, climbed back up our rope and made our way towards the infall we entered.</p>
<p>Lessons learned: don&#8217;t step out into the middle of a slide, and when in doubt use a rope.</p>
<p>Finally, here&#8217;s a very aproximate path of both the Cote St-Luc collector (shown here in red) and the stretch of Double Ducker that leads into it. You can zoom out in order to see the full extent of the system.</p>
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<p>Don&#8217;t worry, we&#8217;ll get through this thing eventually.</p>
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		<title>Rivière St. Pierre, Part II &#8211; Double Ducker</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 13:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Following the water of St Pierre River from its last remaining stretch aboveground down into the sewers.]]></description>
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	<div>The twin inlet channels leading to Double Ducker.</div>
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<p>From a distance, the drain (which I&#8217;ve named <em>Double Ducker</em>) beginning at the edge of the Meadowbrook Country Club doesn&#8217;t really appear to be much. In fact, if it wasn&#8217;t for the old limestone construction of its inlet, then I wouldn&#8217;t have bothered looking at it more carefully in the first place. The two entry points are all of two feet high. Rarely does that sort of size suggest anything good lies beyond.</p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t until I got closer that I realized that the two channels are actually double this height. Over the years, sediment and other debris has more or less created a dam of sorts, but beyond this it soon dips down and opens up to reveal the full height.</p>
<p>Four feet isn&#8217;t all that comfortable a height to walk through, but it&#8217;s better than two feet. So I slipped on my chest waders, squeezed through the left side and crouched through 75 feet or so of what appeared to be hastily cut limestone blocks.</p>
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<p>I was now passing underneath the original mainline of the Canadian Pacific Railway built in 1886. It smelled less like a man made drain and more like an old cave.</p>
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	<div>Looking back through to the entrance inside one of the limestone channels.</div>
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<p>When CPR built a rail yard parallel to the main set of tracks in the late 1940s, more of the river required covering.</p>
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	<a href="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/meadowbrook_1952.jpg" rel="lightbox[324]"><img src="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/meadowbrook_1952.jpg" alt="Detail of 1952 map showing Riviere St. Pierre (and its tributaries) passing under CPR's rail yards. " width="530" height="391" /></a>
	<div>Detail of 1952 map showing Riviere St. Pierre (and its tributaries) passing under CPR's rail yards. </div>
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<p>By this time the construction material of choice wasn&#8217;t limestone, but concrete. So at this point, the two channels come to an end and a rather ruddy–looking concrete section in the shape of an arch begins; its floor looking as though it had been quickly slathered in place. At this point I could finally stand up. The smell of sanitary flow wafting in from up ahead gave a good indication as to where all this was heading.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><div class="img size-large wp-image-341 aligncenter" style="width:400px;">
	<a href="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/_mg_85023.jpg" rel="lightbox[324]"><img src="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/_mg_85023-400x600.jpg" alt="At the end of the limestone section with a drillhole in the ceiling bringing in a touch of natural light." width="400" height="600" /></a>
	<div>At the end of the limestone section with a drillhole in the ceiling bringing in a touch of natural light.</div>
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<p>A few feet further and the concrete arch suddenly increases in size with enough room to stand up in and then some.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><div class="img size-large wp-image-339 aligncenter" style="width:400px;">
	<a href="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/doubleducker_arch01.jpg" rel="lightbox[324]"><img src="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/doubleducker_arch01-400x600.jpg" alt="Looking a little forlorn while standing inside the largest concrete arch section. (Note the imprints left from the wooden forms used during construction.)" width="400" height="600" /></a>
	<div>Looking a little forlorn while standing inside the largest concrete arch section. (Note the imprints left from the wooden forms used during construction.)</div>
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<p>Only to become slightly smaller again thirty feet later.</p>
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	<div>Looking through to the smaller stretch.</div>
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<p>And then things get really small with the start of a section built using RCP less than four feet high. None of this really makes sense. Much like actual rivers, sewers have a tendency to get larger as you head downstream in order to accommodate the increasing amounts of water picked up along the way. This small &gt; large &gt; larger &gt; small &gt; smaller sequence is still a bit confusing.</p>
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	<div>Looking ahead (but not forward) to the upcoming stretch of small RCP.</div>
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<p>So at this point, I had effectively crossed the width of the entire railway yard above me. The more refined looking section of pre-fabricated RCP that lay ahead was obviously added more recently. 1973 is the last map I have that shows the river flowing past this point. It was around this time when the city began to implement a more comprehensive wastewater management plan. This stretch was most buried as a part of that effort.</p>
<p>Shining my spotlight down the small pipe, I saw no end in sight, but could hear the rumble of water suggesting bigger (perhaps more interesting) things lay ahead.</p>
<p>I decided to keep going. Here, the concrete is smooth, almost polished. Combined with a fine layer of sanitary &#8220;scum&#8221; on its bottom and the slight downward slope, it was slippery enough for me to lose my footing a couple of times. After crouching through about 250 feet of this pipe, I eventually reached the source of the rumbling: a seven foot high slide.</p>
<p>Normally getting past something like this would be kid&#8217;s play. Even when civil engineers <em>don&#8217;t</em> thoughtfully add ladders or step-irons, you can often make your way down safely enough by keeping to the dryer edges. But here there&#8217;s no ladder, and given the slipperiness of things, I came to the conclusion that even if I could get down safely (and dryly), I might not be able to get back up so easily.</p>
<p>So I did what any prudent drainer would do: I decided to wait and come back another day, with a couple of friends, a bit of climbing gear and a length of rope.</p>
<p>Coming up in our next episode: <em>Double Ducker</em> meets <em>Ovalflow</em>. Stay tuned.</p>
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		<title>Riviere St-Pierre, Part IV: Deep Breath</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Following Riviere St. Pierre through the sewers beneath the sleepy suburb of Cote St. Luc.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Picking up where we last <a href="http://www.undermontreal.com/riviere-st-pierre-part-iii-slips-and-slides/#more-508">left off</a>, we eventually managed to find a safer way past the <img style="border: none; margin: 0;" src="http://www.undermontreal.com/images/camera.gif" alt="" /><a href="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/ddstp5.jpg" target="_blank" rel="lightbox[620]">big slide</a> where <a href="http://www.controleman.com" target="_blank">Controleman</a> ended up taking a bit of a spill. A manhole in a relatively discreet area nearby allowed us to climb back down and continue further upstream. So without further adieu..</p>
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	<a href="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/_mg_86072.jpg" rel="lightbox[620]"><img src="http://um-images.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/_mg_86072-400x600.jpg" alt="Standing below a bit of natural light coming in through the manhole shaft." width="400" height="600" /></a>
	<div>Standing below a bit of natural light pouring in from above a manhole shaft.</div>
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<p>Judging by the pre-fabricated sections of reinforced concrete pipe, it looks as though this portion was constructed a bit more recently. Sometime around the 1970s, perfectly round RCP seemed to have become the standard material for sewers and storm drains in Montreal. It can make for somewhat dull underground experiences, especially when long stretches of the stuff are involved. Fortunately, this particular sewer ended up having a nice combination of other features to help break the monotony.</p>
<p>The visibility was fairly poor, which we&#8217;d later discover was the result of cold air blasting in through a little 6&#8243; pipe. During the autumn and winter months, the air inside sewers stays a few degrees warmer relative to aboveground temperatures. When outside air finds a way in, it can can lead to somewhat unfavorable exploring conditions. In this case, a dense &#8220;fog&#8221; had filled the sewer. The lights of our headlamps only penetrated a few feet in front of us. Regardless, we began making our way northwards underneath Cote-St-Luc.</p>
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<p>Sloshing our way through the shin-deep water, we eventually arrived at a nice wide junction chamber. Nothing too fancy or out of the ordinary, but at least at this point the fog had subsided enough to make it a bit more practical to be able to take a photograph or two.</p>
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	<div>nel58 and myself lighting things up.</div>
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<p>We chose to follow the smaller pipe to the right out of which we could hear the rumbling of water; a sign that something a bit more interesting lay ahead.</p>
<p>Fifty feet or so in, we found ourselves inside a  rusted corrugated metal pipe. I have no idea why the change occurs, but it&#8217;s there. Maybe it&#8217;s a culvert that existed beneath a roadway before the rest of the sewer was put in place. As the picture below can attest it was a bit on the dirty side. I&#8217;m always having problems convincing people that sewers aren&#8217;t as bad as they might imagine them to be. I&#8217;ll admit that a photo like the one below does little to support my claims. Fortunately, these places never smell as bad as they look. Honest.</p>
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<p>Being careful not to get a dangling condom, piece of toilet paper or god-knows-what-else in the face, we pressed forward.</p>
<p>We eventually reached a lovely little chamber responsible for the noises we had started hearing from the previous junction.</p>
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	<div>Accidental modernism found forty feet below.</div>
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<p>Sometimes it&#8217;s the little stuff that helps make things more interesting. In this case, a curtain of water falling over a diagonal ledge or reinforced concrete beams. As much as traveling through pipes is a part of  underground exploration (which I&#8217;ll admit can sometimes get boring), it&#8217;s this sort of stuff that we look forward to discovering the most.</p>
<p>Since neither of the two pipes ahead of us were tall enough to stand up in and would likely only get smaller, we decided to head back.</p>
<p>After returning to the first junction, we started heading up the pipe that ran off to the left. It didn&#8217;t take long before we realized it would probably be some time before we came across anything other than RCP.  A basic system map from the 1960s  shows the main arm of the sewer continuing on to the northern boundary of Cote-St-Luc. Reaching that point would involve walking against the current for a good 3 kms from where we were standing. Not feeling up to that particular task, heading back downstream from our entry-point seemed like the more appealing option.</p>
<p>Roughly fifteen minutes later, this is what we arrived at this strange little room:</p>
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	<div>Odd engineering found at the end of the line.</div>
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<p>Two relatively dry CMPs veer off to the left and the rest of the wastewater flows through the four foot high square section seen on the right. Shining my spotlight up through this part revealed no end in sight. I figured it was most likely going to be like this for the entire width of the railway yard sitting directly above us. Regardless, I started to crouch down through it.  Soon afterwards, I found that the bottom of the floor dropped off abruptly to the point where I was now up to my waist in water. Realizing my backpack (and more) would probably get soaked if things got much deeper, we decided it would be best to turn around and call it a day.</p>
<p><strong>Next up: Downstream towards Lachine.</strong></p>
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